May 25, 2021

Medical Expenses - Even With Medicare

 


It probably comes as no surprise that a top concern of retirees is the unknown cost of ongoing and future health issues. Even with Medicare or Medicare Advantage, private insurance through a former employee, or some other way of paying for health costs, many of us are not fully prepared. We may be in for a rude awakening over what lies ahead.

Recent studies tell us that up to $300,000 in costs are is possible for those over age 65. Don't we assume that with Medicare, a Medigap policy, an Advantage option, and drug coverage, that can't possibly be right? 

Unfortunately, the most expensive parts of our health costs aren't covered by those policies. Moving into an assisted living facility can easily cost $4-$5,000 a month. A nursing home might be closer to $7,000 every 30 days. Medicare covers your residence in such a facility for only a limited period of time each year.

When my mom went into such a facility,  I remember she had a change rooms from a Medicare-covered to a non-covered room after just a few months. If you elect to stay in your home, you will still need expensive on-site nursing and custodial care that can cost about the same as being in a facility. Research shows 70% of us will need either short and long-term care at some point.

True, you can buy a long-term insurance policy, but they are quite expensive and usually have a waiting period before payments start. They are dependent on the insurance company staying in the long-term care business, not a sure thing as costs outstrip their ability to generate sufficient return on their investments. You could face either large premium increases every year or the company leaving that segment of the insurance market completely.

Vision and dental care are expensive and not covered by traditional Medicare. True, some Advantage policies offer these services but usually require visiting a tightly controlled network of providers. Hearing aids? Not covered by Medicare. These three expense categories can add up quickly. 

A part D drug coverage policy does make the expense of many prescription drugs reasonable. But, there are still co-pays and deductibles. Newer drugs aren't necessarily covered right away. And, because Part D coverage is provided by private insurance companies, they can assign certain drugs to the highest cost category or deny filling a prescription without an appeal process and approval. 

More than half of us fear falling victim to Alzheimer's or dementia more than any other health issue, even cancer, heart issues, or stokes. Another study tells us that most retirees fear medical debts may overwhelm their finances, with up to a quarter of us already in trouble due to medical bills.

The good news in a not-so-good scenario is that Medicare does cover a good portion of both the in and outpatient costs of dealing with these debilitating diseases. 

So, why am I detailing these scary numbers and scenarios? Because being prepared and facing reality are our best weapons. To have a satisfying retirement, a position of denial is not going to work. Facing the financial possibilities of health costs down the road now will help you if, and when, it occurs.

Remember that $300,000 cost cited earlier for a typical couple after age 65? Well, assume an average life expectancy of twenty more years, and your budget must cover $15,000 a year, and that does not include nursing home costs, long-term in-home care, or long-term insurance.

Obviously, we must do our part to stay as healthy as we can as long as possible. Medicare or Advantage plans offer plenty of free or deeply discounted ways to stay on top of our health and take steps to short-circuit problems. Too many issues we face, however, cannot be avoided just by doing extra situps or laps around the track.

A line item in our budget must include reasonable projections for future medical costs. Forgoing some present pleasures may be necessary to help with future expenses. The health care center won't offer much sympathy when you tell them you can't pay their bills because you took a month-long cruise down the Amazon or have a vacation home in Vail.

The health care system in the United States is unlike any other developed country. We have a for-profit approach to health care. While that provides for the potential of the best medical care possible, it brings with it financial hardships or even ruin if someone isn't prepared.


After several years of Medicare, a Medigap policy, and drug coverage, I am pleased with the large reduction in my medical costs compared to previous years. 
 We are both relatively healthy and have avoided expensive problems or costly drugs. 

However, even with those policies in place, we still spend over $9,000 a year in health care costs, and that figure will only increase. Thinking even ten or fifteen years down the road I wouldn't be surprised if we see our yearly costs almost double. I am aware of what may lie ahead and am doing my best to protect Betty and me from a rocky financial future.

I'd rather spend the money on something else, but health care savings have become part of our life. That is our responsibility.


25 comments:

  1. I agree that no one should deny these possibilities. We have a second home in the mountains that we consider our LTC fund. If we're in need, we are unlikely to have the ability to travel there and enjoy it.

    I'm grateful you keep discussions real on your blog: the good, the bad and the ugly. :-)

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    1. Painting a completely optimistic picture of retirement is more appropriate for comic books or Marvel movies!

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  2. Staying healthy is expensive and so is aging ourselves out of the system---how's that for a euphemism for dying? I'm lucky that---knock on wood---I've never had enough medical expenses to fulfill my deductibles until December except for the years when I had knee replacements.

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    1. The $15,000 as year cost is, or course, an average. Some of us manage to stay well under that while others face a real financial challenge to just stay above water. The discussion of the dangers of a for-profit medical system is for another post, but is one this country will have to face as the population ages.

      I trust your knee operations went well. From friends I hear that is a painful procedure with a long recovery period.

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    2. Bob, my knee replacements were the best gifts I ever gave myself and the pain after surgery was so much less than the pain I had before the surgery. So worth it!

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    3. I so agree about the best gift to ourself. I had first knee replaced 9/11/20 and second 1/22/21.... feel like I got a life back at 66! Should have had surgery done 20-25 years ago but life for in the way. Finally time to take care of me. I encourage everyone not to be as foolish as I was.....surgery/ pain not as bad as what I was trying to walk around on for years! Surgery and treatment have made such progress and changes make it so much easier and I had no family at home with me post op as all alone....still best decision ever....

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    4. I had my first knee replacement age 57. It was a great experience, not painful enough to need narcotic and rehab was quick and comfortable. I look forward to July 13 when I get it's matching twin. I honestly can't tell anything was done to my right knee. It's perfect!

      I do have a friend with a horror story (she didn't ask me who to go to and I wouldn't refer anyone to who she selected). These horror stories are few and far between. Like every procedure, some do have complications and poor results. (I'm no Pollyana-I worked in the OR for 4 decades).

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  3. Good information. We spent $21,000 on medical last year. (includes $11,800 on insurance including LTC insurance) Nothing too special last year except for cataract surgery. Standard dental and vision and doctor visits made up the bulk of the spending.
    We are a relatively healthy 73 and 71 year old couple.

    Here is the real kicker... you will not avoid these costs as you grow older. Something will age poorly. So far this year I had hernia surgery and am now wearing a catheter as they discovered bladder issues during the surgery. Probably more surgery to come.

    This is the first surgery since getting my tonsils out at age 7. One woman I met while volunteering at our local hospital said this about her health issues "I was doing fine and then at 67 all hell broke loose".

    Staying healthy is good but regardless your body will betray you - all part of aging.

    Bob

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    1. Yes, things tend to go downhill at an increasingly fast pace. I think of an avalanche: when the snow first breaks away things don't look too serious. But, as it picks up speed and power it can wipe out buildings and people. Our health history has that kind of feel.

      The best of luck to all of us for as long as we can manage, and the financial foundation to withstand what may come.

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  4. As a country we have created a perfect storm. Medical inflation will continue to eat more of everyone's income. If we have LTC insurance it may or may not be there when we need it. My MIL's policy pays nothing for assisted living, nursing home only. Our friends had to drop their policy after paying on it for years. The premium increases priced them out. We subsidize the rest of the world with our pharmaceutical and medical research and innovations. I suspect every other country is amazed at our inability to even begin discussions on how to bring our medical costs under control. There will never be a way to bring these costs under control without some level of government intervention.
    In addition to medical inflation it is becoming abundantly clear that the only solution to our staggering national debt will be significant long term inflation. Retirees are going to get squeezed at both ends. I do feel sorry for those of us without a significant cushion to address both issues. We stubbornly refuse to address issues that will continue to impoverish an increasing number of Americans. I think we have created a lotto economy. As we all know only a very few win the lottery. "We have met the enemy and he is us."

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    1. The Pogo quote fits. As a people we are pretty poor at fixing serious problems until we are almost at the point of no return.

      Your comment is spot on. Thank you for posting it.

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  5. In light of Fred's comment I want to recommend two recent books that should be read as widely as possible.
    One is "Caste" by Isabell Wilkerson and the other is "The Sum of Us" by Heather McGee. They will go a long way to explain what is going on in this country. Both are long but actually very easy to read. Mostly stories and historical events that got us to here.

    I do not usually recommend books but I am making an exception as I feel these both are telling a fairly accurate story of the US from a sociological perspective. If you want to read just one I think "The Sum of Us" is the better of the two.

    Bob

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    1. I have read Caste and found it disturbing and powerful. I am now reading Ms. Wilkerson's The Warm of Other Suns, another must read to understand some of our problems.

      I am unaware of Heather's book, but will find a copy. Thanks, Bob.

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  6. Dear Bob and Friends, so far, am healthy - and always have been. But that can end. Best i can do is actively remain financially responsible, and trust in the Lord.

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    1. Keep your fingers crossed and eyes toward heaven!

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  7. The healthcare (non)system in our country is shameful. You shared some great advice but I know many people who are drowning in debt.

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    1. Such a situation should not be acceptable. Healthcare should be a basic right, not a privilege reserved for those who can afford it.

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  8. After taking care of my parents’ finances the last year, I know how expensive it can be. We didn’t know all the rules for qualifying for LTC benefits and it took longer than we expected. Now, with just my dad, he can cover his expenses comfortably. But, he knows that could change if he needs more. He’s in good shape financially, yet he still worries about it.

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    1. I think we could have an eight figure retirement account and still worry, simply because it is all so nonsensical and seemingly capricious.

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  9. Hi Bob! Again you offer great information. The more prepared we are for expenses and possibilities the better. Unfortunately I think it is a case of "preaching to the choir" though. Those of us who have done our best to plan for such occurrences will likely be okay. The others? I agree with the other commenters who said that our health care here in the U.S. is a mess. So much for being the richest country in the world? :-( ~Kathy

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    1. Two things will have to change for our medical system to become more reasonable: members of Congress will need to get Medicare without being able to buy additional private insurance which the rest of us can't. That will open their eyes to the coverage gaps and real costs.

      Secondly, Medicare for all must become available. That is the only sure-fire way to hold down costs for everyone, regardless of age. Private insurance would still be available, but Medicare's power to negotiate lower prices and better deals would be strengthened with tens of millions of new customers.

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  10. Our biggest medical expenses have been dental. We go to Algodones Mexico usually, now. I have gotten excellent care for much less that the dentists here charge. During Covid I had to have a root canal redone, here, at the tune of $1200. (Cost is $300 in Algodones.) Can’t wait to resume our care in MExico. Other medical? Well,I have a crap-load to say about health care system. In America but will refrain. We know it’s TIME for America to take care of all its citizens.NO ONE should go bankrupt over a broken leg or a child’s asthma attack which needs an ER visit. So ashamed of USA.

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    1. I know a few folks who are quite pleased with the dental care they receive just across the border. I gather crossing over and back during normal times is a simple procedure.

      Our health care system is broken with not enough political will to fix it. At some point the number of people who suffer the most will be great enough to no longer be ignored.

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  11. Your numbers are a little off. The cost of a not for profit nursing home I just used is $275.00 per day or $8525.00 per month. My mother only lived for a few days and was under hospice care. If we had brought her to my house, Hospice would have only covered 1 nursing visit per week and a nursing aide two to three times per week for about an hour. I would have been responsible for paying for nursing care. $27.50 per hour for 8 hours or 25.50 for 9 hours per day. This quote included a VA discount I would have been responsible for the other 16 hours of the day. The cost for 7 days in the nursing home will be $1925.00 plus incidentals.

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    1. While nursing care costs do vary in different parts of the country, it is an expense that can ruin many families. From a cost standpoint I understand why Medicare doesn't cover much in this area. But, from an ethical and moral perspective, it is unacceptable.

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