January 4, 2021

Who Is Stealing The G.O.P. ?

UPDATE: It is Wednesday afternoon and the Capitol Building is being overrun, invaded, damaged by traitorous criminals. President Trump continues to lie about the election while provoking today's attack by 10,000 of his most out-of-control believers.

I have never been more enraged, more afraid, and more frustrated by the enabling members of the party behind this entire sequence of events.

This is horrific and comes with absolutely no excuse or justification. Whether we, as a country, will still be standing 13 days from now when the evil that is Donal Trump finally exists government, is suddenly an open question.




I grew up in a Republican Party household. As part of a mostly white suburb in America in the 1950s and '60s, that was the norm. My parents weren't particularly political, but the message of less government interference in daily life and being wary of deficit spending met their expectations.

Being even less interested in what happened in Washington than my parents, I happily followed suit. Of course, I couldn't vote, but if a Republican said something newsworthy, it was, by definition, good.

All that changed in 1974. Richard Nixon's behavior and the Watergate scandal pushed my parents to abandon the G.O.P. and never look back. By then, as a college student and able to vote, my allegiances had already shifted. Anti-war demonstrations, student sit-ins, a more diverse, liberal student body at Syracuse University, and having a very low draft number in the 1969 lottery opened my eyes to the wonderful world of politics. 

Even so, I didn't think of the Republican Party members as a collection of people who seemed much different than Democrats. Deep down, we all wanted a strong democracy, a solid economy, and the ability for anyone to aspire to the "American Dream," even if that "dream" was fiction for a good chunk of society.

Thinking back, I know I voted for Ronald Regan the first time and George H.W. Bush. For other elections, my vote went to the Democratic Party's nominee to be president. Regardless of who won, I believed the winner would not harm the country or institutions much. After all, in four years, that person had to reapply for the job. There were enough checks and balances in the system from keeping one rouge politician from doing too many dastardly things. Republicans and Democrats went about solving our problems differently, but there was no evil intent.

Well, that all went out the window in 2016. We elected someone uniquely unqualified to lead much of anything. With a world view that revolved only around himself, many of us held our collective breath that he wouldn't do something so dangerous that it couldn't be kept in check. Our system had survived all sorts of trama over the years; we would be fine until the fall of 2020 allowed for a referendum on that choice.

The year 2020, which will go down in history as one of the worst ever, seems to be proving that belief as seriously flawed. For only the second time in our history, a presidential loser is refusing to accept the will of the majority of voters and the electoral system that has been in place since day one.

He will not concede. He and his most loyal followers have tried everything to prevent him from leaving the White House on the 20th of this month. Not incidentally\, he is calling on his most rabid followers to come to Washington on January 6th and get wild, the day Congress deals with the electoral vote confirmation. 

This past weekend, the president is recorded asking a Georgia election official to "find" just enough missing votes to change the results of the popular vote and award that state to him. Because it is his voice and the transcript matches the recording, no one can call this fake news. No one can unhear the president of the United States badgering, even threatening, the Republican official he is asking to magically locate just enough votes to change the outcome.

This is the state that recounted the votes three times, including 5 million ballots by hand, to satisfy party officials and lawsuits that tried to manufacture something that is not there. This is the state with two Senate elections going on this week that will determine who holds the majority in that body. What happens if one or both candidates lose? Can't we just about guarantee the calls of fraud and refusing to accept the results?

Over sixty lawsuits have been filed: all but one minor issue have been tossed out of local and Federal courts, even the Supreme Court. The poor state of Georgia endured demands the Republican Governor resign because he wouldn't bend to the demand to throw out legitimate votes and declare the incumbent as the winner. The same displeasure with the vote totals surfaced in Pennslyvania, Wisconsin, and Arizona, among others.

Then, hundreds of duly-elected G.O.P. representatives and Senators, along with both the president and the vice-president, have promised to attempt a feat that would, in essence, end democracy in this country. In their desperate attempt to hold onto power and placate the most fervent supporters for the losing administration, they are promising to force the delay of the validation of the Electoral College results so baseless accusations of voter fraud can be debated yet again.

With absolutely no proof, only allegations that something must be wrong if their Golden Boy lost, this attempt to throw out the election results so one party can install electors of their choosing will profoundly change our country's history.

With this precedent established, the losing political party in any election will be encouraged to deny the results and ignore the votes that are inconvenient to their purposes. It shouldn't matter what political side of the aisle any of us live on. This attempt to throw out 81 million votes should terrify everyone. Democracy only survives when the majority believe the results of an election are fair; distressing maybe to many, but still valid.

From this very dangerous charade going on in Congress, one must conclude that the G.O.P. has been hijacked by some power-hungry, morally deficient, short term charlatans. This group is so focused on pleasing the "base" of the current president and so afraid of his wrath in coming years that they are willing to tear up our system of government and blatantly ignore their own oath to protect the Constitution.

I am quite aware that 74 million of us voted for the Republican candidate. That is several million more than put him into office in the first place. Clearly, his policies and approach to governance pleased a lot of citizens.

I am also aware that Hilary Clinton garnered more popular votes than her opponent but lost the presidency by roughly 79,000 votes out of 138 million cast due to the electoral college system. I will also point out that she did not scream foul, fraud, and massive voter cheating in that razor-thin loss but conceded on election night.

Many of those most vocal about this Electoral College vote counting have admitted their gambit has zero chance of working. Yet, their political ambitions demand they pick a side in this made-up battle, and that side is to stand with someone who wants to hold onto power even at the cost of our future.

I have been a Democrat for most of the last fifty years of my life. Even so, my votes for Ronald Regan and George Bush, Sr. are an indication I don't just blindly follow one party but vote for who I believe is best for the job.

I do not believe for a second that the majority of Republicans support this attempt to pervert this election. I have absolutely no doubt that, as a whole, those who support the G.O.P. want democracy to remain our form of government and would fight, tooth and nail, against attempts to dismantle it.

So, that begs the question: who is attempting to steal the G.O.P.? What are the rank and file Republican Party supporters thinking as they see some of their representatives making a concerted effort to deny the will of the majority? What do they believe will be the long term consequences of this attempted coup, which is really what is going on? Is there a reaction to a sitting president trying to coerce someone to just change the vote totals? Would all the Republican candidates elected on November 3rd agree that their votes were part of all the cheating and shouldn't be counted either?

The G.O.P. is under attack by those who don't support its history, beliefs, or importance in a two-party system. They are on a path to weaken or even destroy the future of the Republican Party. They are flinging wide the door on a movement from a growing group to form a third party that believes in this country more than a cult of personality and power.

Like the morbid fascination of seeing the video of a particularly gruesome car crash, or a  town destroyed by a tidal wave, we will all be watching how this attack plays out. 

The G.O.P., The Grand Old Party, cannot allow some outliers to hijack and destroy the party and our future as Americans.

Whatever happens over the next few days, the consequences for our fate are immense. All good men and women who believe in the America of the Constitution, in the rule of law, and not of the cult of personality and power grabs, must say, "Enough."


55 comments:

  1. Republicans have a history of poor treatment of women and children,especially in the area of health services and economic equality. I have never voted republican, and never will. SO many of my friends are retired teachers and nurses. People who devote their lives to giving a leg up to others, to lend a helping hand. I was raised and taught that to whom much is given, much is required.I would not be able to sleep at night if I voted for someone or a party that achieves success on the backs of the working class, the middle class, and the poorer sectors of society.I believe in a living wage, higher taxes if you make a ton of money, and in free community college.I want Universal Health care for all in our wealthy nation.I want Jeff Bezos and his cronies to pay their fair share. I trust the government more than I trust corporations,to provide health care and a modicum of a safety net,economically, for our citizens. Medicare is a fine example of how our government makes an alliance with private industry (insurance companies like Humana and Blue Cross) to use THEIR model to provide services for the elderly (me.) Humana gets $$ from the government and provides services according to their successful model. Win win win. More alliances like this,please. There is no trickle down. Corporations and companies who CAN deny their workers health insurance, do deny it or cut hours to skirt the rules. Maternity leaves and personal time off in this country is not healthful.Europe And Canada have a better model we could follow for mental,spiritual and physical health of OUR citizens,.Your post got me riled up! I am in fear and loathing, of the inhuman excuse for a man that the GOP has chained their aspirations to. I will never,ever, in my lifetime vote for a Republican, at any level. The countdown to January 20 is achingly slow. And with the mess the orange guy is promoting, I fear for our country.

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    1. Many excellent points, Madeline. I am especially irritated at our inability to provide consistent, universal health care. It should be considered a right of all residents, not something for only the privileged few or the old. Besides the basic humanity of caring for people, the economic costs of our present system are enormous and unsustainable in the long run.

      And, if I never hear about "trickle down" again it will be too soon. The concept sounded reasonable and is probably one of the reasons I voted for Ronald Reagan the first time. But, it soon became obvious that the "trickle" stopped at the level of corporations and wealthy people. Yet, that theory is brought back over and over as a way of justifying unfair tax laws and keeping social stratification in place.

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    1. Thanks, Gerry. I probably re-wrote this post a dozen times, trying to emphasize my point while making it clear I wasn't condemning a whole group of fellow citizens, just the portion so intent on power they would willingly throw the entire system into a tailspin.

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  3. I agree with you ine million percent. I also have voted for Republicans in my political career especially at the state and Senatorial level anyone of most honorable senators I have know us John Warner from Georgia. What we have here is a travesty. No other way to say it.

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    1. Republican John McCain earned my vote as a Senator, though not in his 2008 presidential run. The thought of Sarah Palin being one heartbeat away was a bridge too far. Though I disagreed with much of John's political views, I knew him to be an honest, truthful, decent man who would put the country before any other consideration.

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  4. Who's stealing the GOP? Opportunists hungry for tyrannical power. They have not a shred of decency. What they might do with that power is terrifying to comprehend. The GOP for a century has been the "party of the rich." It has become the "party of the vengeful," ruled by tyrants.

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    1. The evolution, or de-evolution of the "Party of Lincoln" is a glaring cautionary tale of what happens when any organization loses its moral core and replaces beliefs with a hunger for power and control.

      For democracy to work there has to be faith in the process of voting and at least two political parties to act as a check on one another. When some of the people in one party decide to abandon all principles is when we risk losing it all.

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  5. Another former Republican here. I left over the Iraq invasion. Never had any inclination to go back.

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    1. Bush Jr's decision to invade Iraq for all sorts of dubious reasons was probably the most consequential blunder of our recent history. It squandered lives and resources for absolutely no valid reason. And, 17 years later, we are still embroiled in the mess.

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  6. The latest in this scary attempt to over-turn the election is a letter signed by all the living former US defense secretaries declared that the US presidential election is over the time for questioning the results has passed. Apparently, there is talk behind the scenes of Trump wanting to use the military to stop the inauguration. Where are all the Mitt Romney's in the Senate? Supporting Trump at this point in time is selling the soul of the Republican party. I just can't believe what we're seeing now.

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    1. My current fear (one of a long list of them) is the president's call for his most rabid supporters to come to Washington on Wednesday and "get wild." More than one commentator has pointed out that if things get really messy on the streets of Washington, he will use that as an excuse to impose martial law...an order that has no defined end. Under martial law rights are suspended and obviously an inauguration would not occur on the 20th. This would be a coup, enforced by the military, with no obvious way back.

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    2. My current fear is the same as yours. It feels as if the possibility is entirely too real, whereas before this election I'd never have thought martial law possible. I wish I understood what hold DT seems to have on Republicans? What is he doing that makes them able to sit back and watch all he does without objecting?

      I've always voted (as you have) for the person, not the party, but would've considered myself generally more conservative than liberal - until 2016. Since then I find myself so aghast at what this president and his party are doing that I cannot - will not - support them in any way. Whenever I think of all that's been done I could just cry in frustration and disappointment: where have honor and values gone?

      When Biden was elected I thought perhaps there was still a grain of hope for us. With DT refusing to allow the process to work and not upholding the constitution - and many allowing him to get away with it- I fear a coup is where we're going to end up. *sigh*

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    3. I always thought Bill Clinton should have been removed from office, not just impeached. His disgusting use of sexual power and then lying about it should have resulted in him being shown the door. The president must be held to a higher standard.

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  7. Dear Bob and Friends, was raised by middle class republican parents - mom's very republican parents lived across the street. Of course, like alot of young idealistic people, i became a democrat, for a spell, back in the 80s. To shorten a long story, i'm republican, for various reasons.

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    1. Thanks, Sue. Good for you. Being Republican is not a mark of deficiency or of not loving this country. It is something that you should be able to proclaim loudly and openly.

      I'd be interested in your reaction to the moves and positions by some who claim the Republican label but seem hell-bent on hijacking the party's viability and history.

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    2. Have you bothered to click on Sue's name in order to read her blog writings? You may want to take time to do so as I think you may be surprised by what you see.

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    3. Anonymous: Yes, I have checked on Sue's name and looked at her posts. She has a different political reality than I do, but she expresses herself with civility here, so I welcome her input.

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  8. The south's attempted secession from the United States of America was an act of traitors due to a singular issue. The attempt to continue slavery. All of my ancestors were part of this traitorous act. Once again we have a large number of traitors proposing to overthrow this union for single issues. The difference this time is there are numerous single issues. Abortion, guns, gays, climate change, religion & race. If we are to continue we must address this issue head on without wavering. The people supporting this attempted coup are not uneducated, misinformed or excused by any other factor. Any persons that support overturning a free fair election with no evidence of widespread fraud are traitors to the United States of America.

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    1. The definition of traitor does fit the actions of some of these people. The recorded phone call the president made to the Georgia Secretary of State trying to force him to "find" 11,780 votes, one more than needed to award him Georgia's 16 electoral votes, certainly seems both illegal and the request of a traitor.

      To protect the viability of the Republican Party, there should be an absolute groundswell of protests and calls for his resignation from members of the G.O.P.

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  9. I'd classify myself as a moderate independent for quite awhile, having frequently voted a mixed ticket. I generally leaned Republican until the advent of the Tea Party, and Newt's crew, where the level of toxicity rose, and when DT became the 2016 nominee, I was completely aghast. As a result, I'll cast ballots for far fewer of their candidates. They have now become totally radioactive, and can only hope they can reinvent themselves as a positive force, with a genuine interest in most of their citizenry after a complete crash and burn.

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    1. There is certainly a growing school of thought that the current version of the Republican Party must crash and burn before finding its moral and political footing again. We need two (or more) viable political parties for our system of government to work. I fully support the reformation of a Republican Party that puts country first. Without it, democracy won't continue.

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  10. Well written from a left of center Democrat's POV.

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    1. I freely admit most of time I vote Democratic, but not always, and rarely a straight ticket. But, honestly, I don't see how that characterization is particularly relevant when a sitting president tries to get an elected official to artificially manufacture voting fraud when absolutely none has been found in multiple investigations and recounts.

      With zero evidence presented after two months of making claims, to threaten to hijack the Electoral College results just because one side lost (which happens in every election..one side wins and one loses) is a direct assault on our Constitution and system of government.
      Whether this was written from a Democratic or Republican point of view, the question still remains: what is the G.O.P. becoming?

      Frankly, if I were a lifelong Republican writing this piece, my anger and fear would have been much, much greater, as I watched my party be perverted and stolen from me and tens of millions of other GOP voters by a fringe group of power-hungry people. Probably RINO would fit these people, because what they attempting does not make them Republicans.

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  11. The people destroying the GOP are on the inside.

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    1. Yes. That is my core point. What is happening right now has little to do with the millions of patriotic, loyal, true Americans who identify with the party.

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  12. It seems to me the Democratic party has been hijacked by far left extremists and those currently in power (Nancy Pelosi, for instance) are as hellbent on maintaining power as what you say about the Republican party or Donald Trump. I do not feel any sense of hope in the election of Biden/Harris. I feel a sense of dread and concern. It's interesting how reasonable people can look at the same thing and see it completely differently. That's all I'll say except I wish there was a more balanced discussion in the comments here.

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    1. Big difference in what we're discussing here, though, Jeannine. Nancy Pelosi has been duly elected as Speaker of the House, DT has not been re-elected and we (I) have legitimate concerns that he'll do things that undermine our election process and constitution as he tries to circumvent the transfer of power.

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    2. As a Democrat I do not feel my party has been his jacked by left extremists.Joe Biden is anything but!! But A couple of the die hard republicans in my extended family told me they voted for trump because they are “scared to death” of Democrats and our “liberal agenda”!” LOL. We need Universal Health care, ,taxes on the rich, and assistance for our young and our disadvantaged.THAT is how I want my tax money to be spent and that is how I will vote.I don’t think it is extremist to want a healthy happy middle class.

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  13. While not directly specific to this effort of the GOP but because of the direction this country is going because of the Conservative (and Unconstitutional) effort of trying to setup a national religion based on a right wing version of Christianity all I can say is that God has blessed us by having our only grandchild be a permanent resident of another country (Japan). I have little hope that this country will ever achieve the real greatness it aspires to in our founding principals.

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    1. I am not quite ready to go that far, but we are at an important crossroads. How we proceed from this point will say a lot about our future as a viable democracy.

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  14. Biden is the MOST popular President in the history of the country. Almost 50 % of the voting population voted for him.
    Who cares what Trump does? Biden is in charge and doing a bang up job already.
    I will say- this part of your piece was pretty disingenuous:
    " I will also point out that she (Sec Clinton) did not scream foul, fraud, and massive voter cheating in that razor-thin loss but conceded on election night.". Hillary told Biden to never concede. She conceded, but constantly stated Trump was not the legitimate President of the United States. In fact, didn't she write a book about that? RESIST. Never Trump. Vagina hats, Riots, "I'd like to bl** it up", impeachment during a virus, blaming the victim. Biden, Obama, Kerry and Gates all bought houses on the beach with the climate change oceans rising. Why didn't anyone tell Hillary? I get it.
    I haven't seen a pro Trump riot yet---but nothing would surprise this libertarian. I don't see it happening this week- DC is EMPTY. Boarded up in many areas. Antifa might find a Trump flag to burn though.....
    How about a great post on what the Democratic Party will be doing this next two years? I would love to see what the plans are and how they plan on carrying them out. We never got to that part. I think Harris will make a fine President. It will be wonderful to have a first generation American- raise in Canada- run the country. We could use lots of Canadian ideas on how to be a better country. Really, I am serious. Maybe if plans are run out so people can see- healing can replace fear.

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    1. Without tackling all of your points, I will say that I believe the overall success of the Democratic agenda for the next two years will depend on two things: the results of the Georgia runoff, and whether Mitch McConnell will do the same thing he did to Obama when Republicans controlled the Senate: state that his job is to deny Biden every single attempt at passing anything so the GOP can claim Biden failed during the next election cycle. McConnell clearly stated his job to to make the Democratic president fail. Not once did he suggest part of his job was to make things better for the country.

      I will be glad to write about Joe Biden's plans when it becomes clear whether he will be allowed to implement some of his ideas and plans for the country.

      Final point: Hillary Clinton was a flawed candidate who was as political and power-hungry as anyone has been. But, she didn't fight her General Election loss. She conceded immediately.

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    2. Don't people usually know what the stand of the President is BEFORE s/he is elected? So, what reality is that this post is about hoping that Georgia goes Democrat?
      I am anxious to see what the Democrats come up with. I am hoping they will have ALL of us at heart when they do their work. I hope that some of their better ideas rise to the top, they become the anti war party again and fix the educational system---but those are the wishes of the middle class, not Hollywood.

      You have an interesting assessment of Clinton. Have you thought through Biden yet? What amazing talent does he bring to the job? He is the MOST popular ever.
      Hillary did say "I concede" and then spent the last four years, with lots of people following, (clearing throat) doing everything she could to keep any of the ideas being implemented, saying how evil he was and on and on. Not sure which is more detrimental to the world.

      Obama had the both houses for two years.


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    3. Whether or not Hilary complained about DT, she had no power to "keep any of the ideas being implemented" as you say. I don't know how you can say that's more detrimental that letting the Democrats see what they can come up with. Especially when you consider, for instance, McConnell keeping President Obama from appointing to the Supreme Court.

      My hope is that all this partisanship can be overcome so both parties work together instead of fighting each other. I think Republicans and Democrats have more things in common - as far as wanting good things for the country as a whole - than different. If it wasn't such a power grab more might get done.

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    4. Janette, you have referenced Kamala Harris as President on numerous occasions on this blog. Why are you so convinced that President-elect Biden won't be able to serve out his term? Do you have information that the rest of us do not, or do you refer to every Presidential ticket in this same manner? I've apparently missed your references to Pence as President here if so.

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  15. No one of either party is attempting to stop Trump from committing a coup. I will not feel safe until he is out of the White House.

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    1. With him, I am afraid he will not go away, even when out of any official position.

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  16. How will history look back at this time and judge those who have lost any pretense of integrity?

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    1. Poorly, I hope, though we do tend to be a society that doesn't spend much time looking over our shoulder or learning from our history. After all, Manifest Destiny trained us to always look forward.

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  17. I've never been more scared than in the past year. This feeling of living through "history" and worrying that things will only get worse is growing everyday. Many scifi books focus on living after the war or bad event, I worry that these scenarios are coming true and we will look back on the good old days when we had a democratic society and amenities that don't exist anymore like centralized government, schools and healthcare....I think there are many contributing factors to this decline and the GOP is definitely one of them

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    1. I am writing this response the morning after the Georgia special election. Indications are the Democrats will pick up both Senate seats, though we have learned how fluid things are.

      In a state that hasn't had a Democratic Senator in 28 years, one would think a message has been sent. But, time will tell.

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  18. Bob, that was a riveting, well-crafted post followed by some very interesting comments. It almost made me break my personal rule about not commenting on political topics. Almost.

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    1. Over the last several months, I could have turned this blog into all politics. But, that's not what the focus is, so I resisted the temptation. Every once in awhile, though, things get so crazy that the dam breaks.

      There are so many thoughtful, considerate readers that I know comments will be positive additions to the conversation. Even those who disagree with me and others tend to do so without much name-calling or mud slinging. The day I refuse to read something I disagree with is the day I need to get out of blogging.

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    2. Your posts on a wide variety of retirement-related topics are what initially drew my attention to your blog, and it was the content, the integrity of your readers and the sense of community here that held it. Even though opinions may vary, conversations are, indeed, civil, informative and enjoyable.

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    3. Thank, Mary. That's one of the primary reasons I am still here!

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  19. Wow, I am just now reading this post and the comments on January 10th, AFTER the events of Wednesday afternoon. Looks to me like most of you were more right than you thought. I already agreed with most of the worries and concerns voiced in your post and most of the comments. But I truly did not ever think I would see what we all saw at the Capitol on Wednesday.

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    1. I am old enough to remember the phrase, "the date that will live in infamy" referring to December 7, 1941, the attack on Pearl Harbor. It is very likely that January 6th will now be the date that also fits that phrase for a new generation.

      I watched a special on CNN Sunday night that was terrifying. The mob mentality, casual violence, and lack of any remorse were staggering to behold.

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  20. Bob, this is a very well written perspective. As I am reading it after the January 6, 2021 riot/ putsch/ insurrection, I hardly know what to say that hasn’t already been said. As a Canadian, it is not my business to concern myself with the politics of your country. Except — every night for weeks, 4 out of 5 of the top stories on the CBC website, our national broadcaster, have been about American politics, and I have many American friends and family members. I have followed the events with anger and horror. What happens in the USA affects not only Americans but the whole world. How is it that an unfit president can remain in office for his entire term, AND continue in office after lying repeatedly and publicly, refusing to concede a fairly won election, inciting extremists to attack the seat of government putting the lives of elected representatives at risk and resulting in 5 deaths? He should be in jail, not still sitting in the White House. I have read the impeachment document, and am glad to see it passed yesterday. I am glad that Biden was elected (if he actually gets to form the government). But, from this Canadian’s perspective...
    1. American democracy is broken
    2. Whereas the world has looked at the American election of an unfit president with concern, and his antics and poor decisions with fear and scorn over these last four years, this latest series of events will result in significant drop in the USA’s reputation and influence
    3. An electoral system that dominates everyone’s attention for months every 4 years siphons off energy from efforts to do the important work of the country and the world (pandemic, climate change, peacekeeping) and fuels bipartisanship
    4. The systemic racism, white supremacy, armed violence, and extremist religious influences in the country must be addressed if the US hopes to come back from the brink

    Jude

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    1. All four of your points resonate with me and so many Americans. How he lasted more than a year, much less 4 is hard to fathom.

      Various states are seriously looking into him and his businesses. When he leaves office I hope they will ramp up their efforts to extract a serious financial toll on him and his family. Some of the potential charges are criminal ones, meaning they may convict him of a criminal charge that results in jail time. I don't realistically expect him to end up in prison, but his financial fortunes are already under tremendous strain. Donald Trump as a poor person? Wouldn't that be something!

      Have you heard the joke that Mexico is now willing to pay for the wall, and Canada wants one, too? Not all that far from the truth.

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    2. I had a long comment, but it disappeared.
      Simple, how all this has happened in the last four years, including Jan 6th....

      Racism and religious extremism. Add in poor education, Fox News and talk right wing radio.
      Then add in no accountability for trumps actions, words and lies over the past 4 years and the GOP being complicit in all he does simply to court trump's cult for power. They know he’s insane and they know he lost the election, but many chose their own agenda over the country and it’s own people.
      If we don’t get a handle on this, we can kiss democracy goodbye and any standing in the world we use to have.
      It’s a pathetic way to lose a country.

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    3. Mary: Identifying the causes and bad actors is pretty straight forward. How to repair the damage is not. Recently, I read an interview from a retired man who said he'd be glad to admit Biden won and the election was fair, if he saw the proof. I was just dying to ask him what would his "proof" would look like? Obviously, not recounts, no court agreeing with any of the charges, no "proof" that any of the bad things happened.

      What this man was doing was presenting himself as a rational person who could be swayed if he was proven to be wrong. But, the type of proof he would require doesn't exist, unless Trump said, "I lied. There was no steal." But, that isn't going to happen.

      Fox News is making a fortune over putting the country (and therefore it's own survival) at risk to make money. They don't have a patriotic bone in their corporate body.

      Evangelical Christians are hell-bent (excuse the expression) on destroying their moral right to be an example of anything but the crassest opportunists, openly betraying their teachings for a seat at the table of power.

      All in all, a rather pathetic place we find ourselves.

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    4. I wish you weren't so absolutely right about this, Bob.

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